Cringeworthy

Did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam Barack Obama ordered the attack on Bin Laden?

It’s true!  He did!

It’s entirely possible that the “Would Romney Have Done It?” ad will be forgotten in a few months, long before the election.

But not if I can help it:

Brandon Webb, a former SEAL who spent 13 years on active duty and served in Iraq and Afghanistan, said: ‘Bush should get partial credit for putting the system in place.

‘Obama inherited a very robust package with regards to special ops and the intelligence community. But Obama deserves credit because he got bin Laden – you can’t take that away from him.

I mean, give credit where it’s due…

‘My friends that work in Special Operations Command (SOCOM) that have been on video teleconferences with Obama on these kill or capture situations say that Obama has no issue whatsoever with making decisions and typically it’s kill. He’s hitting the kill button every time. I have a lot of respect for him for that.’

…with the operative phrase being “where it’s due”.

But he said that many SEALs were dismayed about the amount of publicity the Obama administration had generated about SEAL Team Six, the very existence of which is highly classified.

‘The majority of the SEALs I know are really proud of the operation but it does become “OK, enough is enough – we’re ready to get back to work and step out of the limelight.” They don’t want to be continuously paraded around a global audience like a show dog.

Or a campaign pamphlet.

41 thoughts on “Cringeworthy

  1. Which narrative will survive longer, this or “Ann Romney has never worked a day in her life”? Oh in case you are wondering why that disappeared from the news, that is partly our doing, the problem is we have very little control or influence on the alt/new media. Thats nothing a little intimidation can’t solve. Mitch I can’t promise you anything but don’t be surprised if you get a visit from some MIB if you continue to push this. That is, if we are paid properly by the right sources.

  2. Was catching parts of the Limbo show earlier and he played excerpts of Romney’s interview on the Charlie Rose…zzz Show (sorry, I get sleepy at the mention of that guys name). Now Romney is having to explain why he would have also made the same call and also why he dared critizize Obama (the Nobel Peace Prize winner) actions in taking out Bin Laden (which Romney didn’t). Funny, Charlie Rose…zzz, didn’t mention how the SEAL’s and even Admiral McMullen had come out as saying that using the sacrifice of our commando’s in Obama’s campaign ads is loathesome.
    As the Devil notes above, there is no narrative the Dominant Media Culture/Democrats (PTR) can run with for very long that can’t now easily be torn to shreds. Hell, even #Forward has already taken numerous shots below the waterline and it’s barely 24 hours old.

  3. Seems Barry as Commander In Chief gave the order for the takedown. But at the end of the day the real truth is that he held the Seals coats while they carried the fight. He wants us to believe he’s the hero.

  4. Charlie Rose is an insignificant piss ant. He just doesn’t realize it yet!

  5. Kerry didn’t give the order to put a bullet in Ho Chi Minh’s brain, big guy. And sure Bush deserves a lot of the credit. If he hadn’t spent eight years in abject, impotent inability to get the job done, Obama would never have had a chance to take out bin Laden.

  6. I think that Osama was never buried at sea. Instead they kept him on ice. If Romney gets far enough ahead of Obama in the polls, Obama will have his corpse pantsed, live on network television.
    But that’s too undignified for the president to do himself. Instead he’ll have Biden do it.

  7. So by the Clowns logic, Nixon should be given full credit for putting a man on the moon. While JFK and LBJ deserve a lot of the credit, if they hadn’t spent nine years in abject, impotent inability (excellent alliteration, by the way) to get the job done, Nixon would never have had a chance to put a man on the moon.

  8. Didn’t realize whacking a guy is comparable to the space program, Syphlores. Tony Soprano used to manage the trick every week on HBO.

  9. Tony Soprano used to manage the trick every week on HBO.

    Well, maybe they should have hired Tony Soprano to whack bin Laden, then. Or arranged for bin Laden to appear on HBO. Or something.

  10. Mr. D, TV isn’t real.
    Sometimes, in real life, the invaders from space are not defeated by the brainy scientist and his cute, plucky lab assistant. In real life the cute, plucky lab assistant may not even be a girl.
    These are hard truths.

  11. “It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.” 2007

    Romney was sure someone else would simply replace bin Laden, so he wouldn’t have chased him down. That turns out not to be correct killing bin Laden made more of a difference than Romney credited – or credits now.

    I don’t really give a rip if someone can find some disloyal seals. There was a recent discharge of a marine sargent for similar comments critical of the Commander in Chief. That’s bad soldiering on the part of the marine, who should have known better. What is acceptable is different for military than for civilians. If these guys have a problem with Obama, they should get out now. Not because, unlike the mistake made by Romney – one of so very many – these bad mouthing seals are expendable; they are not. But because their attitude is unacceptable.

    Bush would have had a much better chance of catching bin Laden if he hadn’t engaged in torture – regardless of whatever Cheney says. All of the reports have been consistent in that regard. ALL of them. Only those with an axe to grind claim otherwise. Bush would have had a much better chance of catching bin Laden if he had kept his eye on the real threats in Afghanistan – and Pakistan. He didn’t; instead he started a costly war in Iraq that was bloody useless and a huge mistake, and while he was at it, he trashed our economy to hell, with his tax cuts to the wealthy (NOT to ‘job creators’ – that is crap) and his other domestic policies on top of the unfunded war expenses.

    Romney has the same bunch of losers and makers of those mistakes. And he is even less of a leader than Shrub. Too bad none of you appear to have learned the lessons of history either, military OR economic. But that’s ok, because Romney isn’t a particularly truthful individual anyway, to a degree that exceeds the usual dishonesty of polticians. I dobut many on the right will turn out to support him anyway; his primary voter support has been pretty much just old, white, and in the 1%. He can’t turn out many warm bodies. The PACs might make a difference, but….there’s even a limit apparently to how many votes can be bought. Your own people don’t like your candidate, and your policies are singularly unpopular. Your ‘fiscal responsibility’ is a joke. Your culture wars will turn out everyone but your base. Keep cringing – but by all means crinige at Romney and objective reality.

  12. “disloyal seals”
    You should not say things about people that you would not say to their face, Dog Gone.
    Our soldiers do not swear loyalty to a politician. They swear loyalty to a constitution.

  13. AC’s Sopranos analogy is apt and the SEALS know it. They killed the Don, they didn’t kill the entire Family; the war against Islamic terrorists is not over.

    President Obama knows it, too, which is why he won’t keep his promises to close Gitmo or pull all the troops out of the Middle East. He’s just hoping that posing as a war hero will fool enough of Dog Gone’s friends for him to win re-election.

    It’s odd that President Obama has been in office three years and has given only one order (at least, one he’ll cop to). Must have been all he could squeeze in between playing the most rounds of golf of any president in history and hosting more fundraisers than the last five presidents combined.

  14. Sometimes, in real life, the invaders from space are not defeated by the brainy scientist and his cute, plucky lab assistant. In real life the cute, plucky lab assistant may not even be a girl.

    And sometimes, in the movies, the plucky lab assistant looks a lot like Marty Feldman.

  15. Well, AC, your buddy Slick Willy Clintoon had not one, not two, but 3 chances to take bin Laden, but he chickened out. So, Bush didn’t get him, either, but he never should have had to make that decision if Slick had done his job. There is no doubt that intel collected while Bush was still in office, led to Obamba and his drolling sycophants being able to do their happy dances.

    And Doggy Breath, please keep your muzzle on your keyboard! Obviously you never served in the military and you are a pathetic loser yourself for having the gall to diss anyone that has! You are not qualified to shine any service man or woman’s shoes! As for your “assessment”, I mean repeat of left wing media chanting points, see my response to AC.

  16. I feel compelled to ask DG, aka Penigma’s Chihuahua, where is the homework assignment given to you by our host for completion before you posted here again? You claimed the “puppy ate it” a while ago.

  17. DG, Those ‘singularly unpopular’ policies nabbed the Republican Party 84 freshmen Congressmen last year.

    What I want is a presidential candidate who will implement those policies on a national level, with a Congress who will support him. The only problem with true fiscal conservatism is that it has never really been tried.

  18. DG,

    Romney was sure someone else would simply replace bin Laden, so he wouldn’t have chased him down.

    On the one hand, Romney was right; Al Quaeda was and remains a decentralized group. And the left from 2004 to 2008 was using Bin Laden as a chanting point – “turning things around in Iraq? So what? Where’s Bin Laden? Huh?”. Romney, like a lot of us, was right; Bin Laden was important, but killing him wasn’t, and isn’t, going to end Islamist terror.

    As to whether Romney wouldn’t have carried on the hunt, that’s pure partisan conjecture.

    But that’s not really the big issue with this comment.

  19. I don’t really give a rip if someone can find some disloyal seals.

    I’m sorry, DG. I’ve defended you and Pen against an awful lot.

    But this is utterly reprehensible. Seriously. I’m not saying this to make a rhetorical point. This is a shameful statement.

    SEALS swear to uphold the constitution. They undergo two years of the most hellish training there is, and then years of incredibly taxing duty in the service of this country, regardless of who the president is.. They have been in combat continuously for a decade, now – there is little concept of “tours” in that community. Someone who’s been a SEAL from 2001 to the present has likely seen more combat, in the service of two Presidents and one Constitution, than any soldiers or sailors in American history.

    Calling them “disloyal?”

    The SEALs criticizing the president most vocally are former/retired ones – but if word is leaking out from active-duty operators, then that should give any thinking person pause. SEALS, along with Green Berets and “Deltas”, avoid publicity as a matter of principle, So if THEY find Obama’s politicization of their work reprehensible, everyone with a brain in their head and a moral compass in their heart oughtta pay attention.

    Obama deserves the hit he’s going to take over this.

    And so do you, DG. Shame on you.

  20. Loren,

    She’s probably waiting to hear a revised chanting point from “ThinkProgress” or “Kos”. It’s getting complicated for them, since the NAACP has come out defending Stand Your Ground in a case with a black defendant.

    Having double-standards is easy. Defending them is hard.

  21. Mitch said: “As to whether Romney wouldn’t have carried on the hunt, that’s pure partisan conjecture.”

    Romney said: “It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.”

    Yeah, not so much.

  22. Totally agree with you, BossHogg. Nobody should vote for Bill Clinton in this election.

  23. Well, it has finally come to the point where Mitch is really truly embarrassed by DeeGee/Peevee. The man’s loyalty to others does not trump his loyalty to logic and FACTCHECKING!!! (Dog Gone, once again you have been completely debunked. Yes, we know, Victory Gin and Kool Aid does that to you.)

    And then AssClown goes on to say that Obama moved heaven and earth and spent billions of dollars to catch one person. (after this bitchslappin AC might just “shun” itself. Bwwwaaahahahaha!)

  24. So, Angry Clown, you do think that it is” worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person”?

  25. That is certainly how Gov. Romney appeared to view the task. At the time, anyway. Now it’s a “no-brainer.” Guess somebody shook up the Etch-A-Sketch!

  26. Colonel_Flagg wrote:
    “DG, Those ‘singularly unpopular’ policies nabbed the Republican Party 84 freshmen Congressmen last year.”

    Yep. The last time I visited Penigmaland it was the most contentious part of the primary season. The GOP was deciding whether their best candidate was the mormon or one of two catholics, and DG had written a post accusing the republicans of being dominated by protestant religious bigots.

    Land sakes.

  27. You’re not being rational, AC. It didn’t take moving Heaven and Earth, or billions of dollars, to get Osama. How do you see that Romney wouldn’t have done it?
    Logic has never been your strong point. You fall for the talking points.

  28. By electing Obama we were supposed to be getting a foriegn relations dream team. We were going to be more respected around the world. I don’t think that worked out as advertised.

    What has happened is that the Islamic world has been enboldened. All across North Africa there is danger of new Khomeni type leaders ascending to power. Christians are targets throughout Africa and Southern Asia from Iraq to Thailand. Now Obama wants to negotiate with the Taliban. If the Taliban is allowed to gain power again they will make the Killing Fields of Cambodia look tame.

    At the same time we are going further and faster into debt to the Chinese who don’t have our best interests at heart. The Senate won’t pass a budget, spending limits are seen as spending minimums and we have added yet another entitlement that won’t hit until after the election.

  29. Terry, consider that AssClown is a burbot and will practice partisan lawyering instead of logic.

    BTW, is AC still obsessed over your volcano?

  30. I think dog might have more of an appreciation for Navy SEALs if she saw them in action…quick; ruthless; leave the target in a bloody heap…just like a trip to her abortionist.

  31. K-Rod, do not underestimate Angry Clown. He diverted us from talking about Obama’s miserable stewardship of the economy, didn’t he?
    Like Kerchak, leader of the savage ape tribe that adopted the infant Tarzan, Mr. Clown possesses a malevolent craftiness that the ignorant may mistake for intelligence.

  32. AC is on retainer by the DDC, we might make him full time because who doesn’t love someone coming into work every day looking and acting like The Joker from the Dark Knight? Only thing is, that clown made more sense.

  33. I think that these Lefty retards all went to the same school of cluelessness. Over at the palace of Mad King Charles, Chuck is trying mock conservatives by pointing out that Nixon once used “Forward Together” as an election slogan.
    A direct comparison of Nixon’s election slogan to Obama’s election slogan. And this is supposed to make Obama look good.
    “What do you mean you think that there is something sinister about Obama calling his re-election team the Committee to Re-Elect the President? Nixon did that too, you krazee wingnut!”

  34. “practice partisan lawyering instead of logic.”

    Actually, there is often no difference. Unless you mistake making shit up and name calling for “logic”.

  35. Btw, Mitch — you DO know, don’t you, that the Daily Mail is an utterly unreliable source for anything? They have less credibility in the UK than the National Enquirer making up stories about big foot sightings, or reporting that Elvis is alive and well, working at a Burger King in Detroit.

    Seriously, the entire premise of this post is utter crap. Do you EVER fact check anything? Do your Mitch-keteers ever question or fact check anything? Or are you all just that gullible? Hint — try multisourcing something for a change, using credible sources.

  36. Ah. So the SEALs weren’t criticizing Obama?

    Well, sure they were – according to all sorts of sources.

    the Daily Mail is an utterly unreliable source for anything

    The “Appeal to Authority” is a logical fallacy. Or to put it your way – “don’t you ever practice rudimentary logic?”

    Do you EVER fact check anything?

    DG, I’m going to let you carry on with your little impression of yourself as a great fact-checker. Everyone’s entitled to build up any self-image of themselves that they want.

    But you might want to temper your self-image with a smidge of reality. Your own “fact-checking” rarely goes beyond comparing what people write with what “Think Progress” or “Kos” or the rest of the lefty chanting classes say. I say that not because I enjoy saying it, but because your every argument in this space has gotten lit up like a gas-soaked towel on fire. And that’s just here.

    BTW, you owe me an explanation. How is “Stand Your Ground” “Crap?” Especially as written in Minnesota? Specifically, in legal terms, not the kind of nonsense you were giving us before.

    Since every single point in your initial premise was either legally void or factually erroneous (because of your vaunted fact-checking, one presumes), I’m curious if you’ve been able to re-stock your chanting points on the subject since the mainstream left’s gone all quiet on us?

  37. I wrote to the e-mail address posted on Penigma for a copy of that St. Paul City Attorney’s expert book on police instructions, but never got a reply. Almost as if they didn’t want anybody outside the echo chamber to read it. Weird.

  38. Dog Gone, The abbreviation SEAL is capitalized as it stands for the United States Navy’s Sea, Air and Land Teams.

    In contrast, the animal that performs tricks for tourists at Seaworld is not.

    I’m curious – did you intentionally fail to capitalize the abbreviation hoping to insult every member of the SEALs? Were you genuinely unaware you should have capitalized it? Did you know but are indifferent to customs of politeness as they pertain to the military? Just a typo this one time only?

    Honestly, given your history of posts on this site, I can’t tell. Please clarify.

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